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Shay Rebuild

Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 5:51 pm
by Mrail
I was not planing on saying anything about it untill I was fairly shure it would get finished. Now it is fairly complete and I brought it up in Rick's post, so here it is again.

I plan to make one in 3ft and one in 30in guage. I also may make other variations on it.

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Paul

Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 6:38 pm
by thegrindre
Hey, that's pretty sweet, buddy! Love that stack! Nice wood burner for sure.

I need that engine kit-bashed to a two cylinder version. Sam's not sure he can do it and the running gear re-gauged to 36".

You any good at kit-bashing, Paul?

:D

Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 8:19 pm
by Mrail
I could probably do that. I dont know much about animation, but I can probably adjust the one it has now. The trucks are essentialy 36" gauge ones with the wheels moved in 3" from each end to get 30" gauge, so evrything works right in both gauges. I dont think that would be any problem.

Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 10:23 pm
by Pencil
Wow - that's looking nice, Paul! I'm looking forward to seeing this progress!

Posted: Sat May 17, 2008 9:47 am
by Trainzsam
That thing looks really nice. 8) And, yeah I've been having trouble with the rods of my shay, for some odd reason they refuse to appear in game.... :| I'll still give it a try though, maybe Pencil could give me a hand. I have a hunch that the parts somehow arn't parented to BR.Main in GMAX. I'll start a new thread about it.

Sam

Posted: Sat May 17, 2008 6:09 pm
by Mrail
I ran across the picture that the cab is losely based off of. As you can see, that one is even more crude than mine. It doesnt even have side windows!

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Posted: Sat May 17, 2008 7:43 pm
by Mrail
Heres the my progress from one looooong day of texturing.

It wont be long now. :D

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Posted: Sat May 17, 2008 9:29 pm
by Mrail
Ok, I didnt think I would get it to show up right tonight, but nothing went wrong :D . It works, although I will need to tweak a few things, like lightening it up so its not a black hole.

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Posted: Sat May 17, 2008 10:53 pm
by thegrindre
WHOA!!! That's lookin' gooood!

I believe your ambient settings are off. In 3DC they're recommended at 50 but I use 35. 50 is far too light, IMHO.
Ask Curtis what he uses for Gmax texture settings.

Nice job, Paul.

:D

Posted: Sun May 18, 2008 7:08 am
by Pencil
I generally have the diffuse set to pure white (255, 255, 255), but sometimes adjust that, occasionally as low as 200, 200, 200.

Posted: Sun May 18, 2008 11:32 am
by Trainzsam
WOW! That textue on the somebox and especially the cab look beautiful! By the way, try using a color other pure black, mix in a few others (like white and brown) and make it a little un-even. Or, just use the textures from the trucks, maybe darken up a nit and there you go! Its a lot easier.

Sam

By-the-way, that ones 30in gauge right?

Posted: Sun May 18, 2008 2:45 pm
by Col Hogan
Mrail
May I offer a suggestion - if you're done with it so far as the workings of it and all that is left is the texturing, allow some of us to give it a try
and submit it back to you and you choose which one to upload to the community.

I would love to give it a try myself. One more thing, how do you have the textures mapped ? If they are separate .TGA files, or something
on the terms that Curtis has done, either of those are easy to work with.

Great work BTW. Love every minute of it.
Ken

Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 7:39 am
by Mrail
Ken
I used seperate files for different textures, with a few exceptions where there is a reason to group stuff together. I doubt that much could be done as far as reskinning without remaping some of the parts. The black, for instance, is just done somewhat randomly. I was planing on some accomidations for lettering it, but I havent got to that yet.

If you want the source files in gmax. I can do that, but I dont think that anyone could do much with re-skinning it as is.

Sam
Yes, its 30in gauge.

Btw: I found by problem. Somehow something I did made my texture turn to pure black when I saved it.

Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 12:18 pm
by Col Hogan
Thanks for that info. I'll be happy to wait for your gift and I'm sure it'll look great once you're done. 8) :lol:

Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 3:00 pm
by Mrail
Now thats more like it.

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Now I need to deal with the running gear. Whenever it goes around almost any curve the drive shafts dont line up. :roll: theres plenty more to do, but atleast it looks finished now.